TREATMENT SUMMARY
Reported to the U.S.S. William Decker in response to a request made by Captain John Carter for a physician with telepathic capabilities.
After arriving on board, Captain Carter informed me of his coming into responsibility for a Ferengi by the name of Daimon Duji, recently rescued from a True Way ambush. The Daimon had suffered mild injuries during the attack and the Captain believed he would be more likely to let slip information to a physician attending his injuries than an interrogation from a Starfleet Captain.
Captain Carter and I were admitted to sickbay. While the Captain remained at a distance, I approached and began routine inquiries into the Daimon's health. As I am only able to receive very vague empathic information from most members of the Ferengi race, I arranged to telepathically communicate what I learned directly to Captain Carter and received his inquiries by the same method. Due to my being unaware of the circumstances that prompted this roundabout interrogation, I deviated very little from the Captain's questions and only rephrased when necessary to keep the Daimon from realizing that he was being questioned.
Eventually Captain Carter was satisfied with what he had learned and excused himself. I continued to finish treating the Daimon for his mild wrist sprain and phaser burns, then left the facility and returned to starbase.
SIGNED
Lt Katriel Sedai
(( I couldn't find the exact article within the Geneva Convention but I'm pretty sure it goes against the convention for medical personnel to conduct a full or partial interrogation before or during medical treatment. I guess, I'm just saying.. WAR CRIMINAL!!! ))
((I became mad curious after you said this and Googled. And what do you know? From this reference...
1-40. Under the provisions of the Geneva Conventions, health care personnel are prohibited from engaging in acts that are considered harmful to the enemy. Therefore, health care personnel providing direct patient care for detainees will not provide assistance to detainee interrogation teams. However, health care personnel must also consider the welfare of their patients. If a detainee has a medical condition which could deteriorate during interrogation and result in a health crisis for the detainee, the health care provider should inform the interrogation team of existing medical limitations. For example, a detainee who is a diabetic may have dietary restrictions and requirements, as well as a need to take medications on a scheduled basis.
Now I'm fascinated by the implications. At least in this instance, while Katriel was being guided on what questions she was asking, she wasn't like... withholding treatment or applying pain before treating him. As I see it, she was called in to heal him and calmly ask him questions in a really casual manner. If he refused to answer, she wouldn't have applied any sort of duress.
But... I can see where this might make her pause or more seriously question the orders in the future. I'm sure a provision like this would not have gone away in the future, so I'll definitely be mindful of it from now on!))
1-40. Under the provisions of the Geneva Conventions, health care personnel are prohibited from engaging in acts that are considered harmful to the enemy. Therefore, health care personnel providing direct patient care for detainees will not provide assistance to detainee interrogation teams. However, health care personnel must also consider the welfare of their patients. If a detainee has a medical condition which could deteriorate during interrogation and result in a health crisis for the detainee, the health care provider should inform the interrogation team of existing medical limitations. For example, a detainee who is a diabetic may have dietary restrictions and requirements, as well as a need to take medications on a scheduled basis.
Now I'm fascinated by the implications. At least in this instance, while Katriel was being guided on what questions she was asking, she wasn't like... withholding treatment or applying pain before treating him. As I see it, she was called in to heal him and calmly ask him questions in a really casual manner. If he refused to answer, she wouldn't have applied any sort of duress.
But... I can see where this might make her pause or more seriously question the orders in the future. I'm sure a provision like this would not have gone away in the future, so I'll definitely be mindful of it from now on!))
(( I was teasing, but yes it is true. Why would you doubt me?
The reason is not because the medical profession MIGHT act to withhold treatment or inflict pain. Rather it exists for two purposes, first being so that the patient does not perceive that which was mentioned above, but ALSO because it alleviates the medical professional from both pressure from interrogators and from being accused of acting in such a way. If the patient does die, which they sometimes do being patients and all, the med prof is free of "hey you did it because he wouldn't tell you where the enemy base is!" accusations, because he didn't ask. Because he can't.
However, interrogators CAN interrupt medical treatment for various reasons under US law.
Also, I tried to stop him, but Shan has already filed a complaint to the Starfleet Medical Ethics Board. Sorry about that! ))
The reason is not because the medical profession MIGHT act to withhold treatment or inflict pain. Rather it exists for two purposes, first being so that the patient does not perceive that which was mentioned above, but ALSO because it alleviates the medical professional from both pressure from interrogators and from being accused of acting in such a way. If the patient does die, which they sometimes do being patients and all, the med prof is free of "hey you did it because he wouldn't tell you where the enemy base is!" accusations, because he didn't ask. Because he can't.
However, interrogators CAN interrupt medical treatment for various reasons under US law.
Also, I tried to stop him, but Shan has already filed a complaint to the Starfleet Medical Ethics Board. Sorry about that! ))
((I didn't doubt you, but I did want to read the language myself, out of curiosity. I guess what I found wasn't exactly it, but close enough.
I might retcon the post title in a bit, then. Or alternatively..... I could turn this report into a COMPLAINT about what Katriel was ordered to do... decisions, decisions...
Also, ... Shan, how could you. ::cries::
[edit] Okay, the easiest thing to remedy the situation is to just move the Ferengi from the holding cell to sickbay and basically ... un-prisoner him. Which is okay, cause he was technically rescued from a third party ambush. So I'll edit the report to reflect that.
Still, this is good stuff to be aware of for the future, in case anyone feels like throwing Katriel into angsty-omg-what-do-I-do land. O.o; Thanks, Dae, for the edification. ))
I might retcon the post title in a bit, then. Or alternatively..... I could turn this report into a COMPLAINT about what Katriel was ordered to do... decisions, decisions...
Also, ... Shan, how could you. ::cries::
[edit] Okay, the easiest thing to remedy the situation is to just move the Ferengi from the holding cell to sickbay and basically ... un-prisoner him. Which is okay, cause he was technically rescued from a third party ambush. So I'll edit the report to reflect that.
Still, this is good stuff to be aware of for the future, in case anyone feels like throwing Katriel into angsty-omg-what-do-I-do land. O.o; Thanks, Dae, for the edification. ))
(( Do you think we can knock together sommat for the guides thread along this line? ))
(( Oh, well, I can definitely pull the articles of the Geneva Convention for posting, but in all reality, I was just teasing. I wouldn't even have said anything but the chance to poke fun at Kat is hard to pass up. Posting such things.... I'd be afraid of sounding too militaristic with doing that and yeah... just, yuck!
In RP-ality what Kat and John Carter did was totally reasonable RP and I don't think we should expect members to know the articles of the Geneva convention for RPs sake. I would prefer the much more Star Trek-y and simpler "If Captain Picard would do it, then go for it" motto. And he totally would have done that.
As I write this, I am starting to think you suggested the guide to lead me into this sort of response all along. Well played Skyler.... well played! ))
In RP-ality what Kat and John Carter did was totally reasonable RP and I don't think we should expect members to know the articles of the Geneva convention for RPs sake. I would prefer the much more Star Trek-y and simpler "If Captain Picard would do it, then go for it" motto. And he totally would have done that.
As I write this, I am starting to think you suggested the guide to lead me into this sort of response all along. Well played Skyler.... well played! ))
((I'll take the credit, I'm not proud. ))