Star Trek: Picard (Spoiler thread)

  1. Borg ship looked vaguely iconian. Did anyone else see that? Or am I just crazy?

  2. Krag at the end of the episode: “And they call Kirk a menace…”

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That “anomoly” struck me as a Borg transwarp aperture right away, and I was almost surprised I was right, because I expected a fake-out. :-)

But I’ll agree that the Stargazer looked great, and yeah, the borg ship looked vaguely Iconian.

And Laris is bae. That’s how the children say it, right? :rofl:

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Personally, I think its a Borg ship from the Universe that Q just dropped Picard in

everyone’s old.

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So they’re taking a Borg Queen back in time with them, to the 21st century.
That seems… bad.
I mean, we remember what happened (or almost happened) the last time, right?

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Anyone else get the feeling that the Confederation is more sinister than the Terran Empire? Or could it be that the Confederation succeeded where the Terran’s have failed, eradicating other species and that’s what makes it more sinister?

I get the sense the Confederation is more serious.

We see the MU as the evil version of Star Trek but it’s really just the reverse, and it’s given carte blanche to be silly and unrealistic, cartoony even. This is a case where what if the darker impulses and instincts we all know very much do exist in people and society became the norm.

MU kinda should be treated as a silly joke, even when they do horrible things. I’d go so far as to say no one should want to, for example, RP in the Confederation timeline because that’s saying they enjoy a serious take on an actual fascist society that doesn’t really have the excuse of being from a fake bizarro world.

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I’d agree with that.

Perhaps to tighten the focus a bit rather than disagree at all, I’d add it seems like the Terran Empire isn’t so much evil for evil’s sake as much as fixated on power as an end. And displays of power, and the jealous protection of it can lead to great evil.

The Confederation, on the other hand, is built upon evil ideology, even though they almost certainly do not see themselves as evil at all, quite the contrary. They are true believers, and see power as a means to an end. And yeah, I think that makes them a lot more scary.

But that’s just my analysis and opinion.

Things that really stuck out to me would include Picard’s observation that Q seemed unwell. I don’t think he’s sick, or crazy, but something seems to have him a bit unbalanced, at the least. Probably whatever it is that he thinks Picard must pay a penance for, which I’m unsure if Picard knew or not by his reaction to Q. I have nothing but wild speculation there, which is probably where we the audience are supposed to be right now.

They are really packing a lot in so far, and keeping it a fairly white-knuckled ride. I’m curious to see if they can (or even want/intend to) keep that up.

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okay so, Episode 3 of Picard:

Quite simply this episode was probably one of the best Trek episodes I’ve seen in a long time. Tying in small things from life like Rick and Morty, using clearly a phone (i would’ve noticed it even if someone hadn’t posted a Twitter post saying as much) as a tricorder, and even the very minor yet present social commentary on real issues within real LA (fires, homelessness, etc) this was amazing.

Yes, the Queen is going to backstab and attempt to betray the crew, and yes Rios is having some issues with the Temporal Prime directive.

But the acting is top tier. The writing is really solid, yes its darker in theme, but I think it sorta works? I don’t have a lot of concerns so far really. Only that episode reallllllly stood out to me.

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Rios beaming into mid-air might just be my favorite moment in trek history. I feel like I’ve been waiting for that moment since the first time I saw a transporter. :joy:

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“Hwu-” WHAM! WHAM!

And that’s a character wrap on Rios, folks! Roll credits.

As for Elnor… It’s a time plot, Raffie, there’s a built-in reset button here. Also, Seven has raised the dead before, why didn’t she grab some of the Queens nanoprobes and give him the old Delta Quadrant MacGuffin?

Oh, and here’s a gallery of Picard’s Big Ol’ Wall Of Guns.

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I feel like they’re setting up a “Rios is his own grandfather” plot line here. :rofl:

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Thoughts so far along with WMG:

Chances of Rios being own grandfather: 75%
Chances of Rios convincing JP to let him take his 21st century GF and her kid to the 25th century instead? Quite high, also would be adorable.

Only one Borg Queen will appear in Picard, and she genuinely wants to join the Federation, having met Picard and seen him at work in her timeline, which is why she was wearing the big shroud in Episode 1. Also, for all we know at this point, she might have ended up seeing him as her father in some strange way.

Elnor will be revived much sooner than in the future, once they find the watcher (Probably the missing main cast member who is still in all the credits).

Lots of Mayhem will happen, presumably involving 7 and Raffi staging a prison break.

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The Watcher is Janeway, on more temporal shenannigans.

Loved the tribute to Voyage Home in the latest episode.

Disappointed that Times Arrow parts 1 and 2 appear to have been forgotten.

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Times Arrow technically never happened (because it happened) so it kinda makes sense.

Some fun facts!

Supervisor is what Gary Seven was referred to. The building that the woman at the end walks out of (listed on Amazon as being Renee Picard - guess they aren’t all in England :smiley:) is named after the creator of the Nomad Probe from TOS. Also the book she’s reading is written by the author of the Dixon Hill books (who is also the writer of the TNG episode The Big Goodbye).

So, that Gary Seven pilot paid off I guess then!

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A Gary Seven reference? wow…totally missed that.

I don’t think they forgot about Time’s Arrow.

Guinan didn’t know it was a much Older Picard, who she had only met once briefly for a moment at this point and that was over 130 years before. Its also important to note that the Guinan we see was not sober, nor was she in a good set of mind due to her anger with Humans, which could effect her ability to recall it was Picard. Plus once he told her his name, she kinda snapped back into it.