Definitely could be the case, it just always seemed like Seven had a pretty good handle on who the Borg had and had not Borg'd in the Delta quadrant. Maybe Hugh didn't have the same access, maybe he didn't keep all of his Borg knowledge when they xB-ed him, I dunno. Guess I'll just have to keep watching.
Okay, it was really great to finally get some answers about questions we’ve had since the beginning of the show, Romulans responsible for Mars, I’m getting a slight Mass Effect feeling here with the Destroyers being like the Reapers, but I’m totally loving the idea of there being always the next step of evolution in the galaxy. Also Oh is confirmed to be a Half Romulan/Vulcan hybrid.
Personally I knew less then twenty minutes in to this episode that it was gonna be an instant favorite, and oh boy did it not leave me disappointed.
Personally I knew less then twenty minutes in to this episode that it was gonna be an instant favorite, and oh boy did it not leave me disappointed.
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I haven't been speaking much on this here, mostly cause I've discussed it elsewhere. If it needs saying I've been loving the show, overwhelmingly so. This episode really started turning things where I knew it, as a Star Trek show, would inevitably go. That even when the Galaxy or the times are darker and things aren't always as perfect as we'd like, there is always reason to push for the better.
It's the kind of anti-nihilist (aka optimistic nihilism) school of existentialism I love in stories. Picard even sort of recalls his take from the Drumbeat in a way. It's succumbing to the fear of what could happen and turning down a darker path that's the enemy. We can't just expect a perfect world and future. We have to make it, and we need to be ever vigilant to do it.
This is why I love Trek, especially the more honest and at times darker takes. Rather than a pristine escapist view of a future I can hope for, I get a guide book for the work needed to try to make a better future. That's the real optimism to me.
It's the kind of anti-nihilist (aka optimistic nihilism) school of existentialism I love in stories. Picard even sort of recalls his take from the Drumbeat in a way. It's succumbing to the fear of what could happen and turning down a darker path that's the enemy. We can't just expect a perfect world and future. We have to make it, and we need to be ever vigilant to do it.
This is why I love Trek, especially the more honest and at times darker takes. Rather than a pristine escapist view of a future I can hope for, I get a guide book for the work needed to try to make a better future. That's the real optimism to me.
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When I was watching the Zhat Vash thing, I immediately thought: EA will be arriving shortly with five divisions of Lawyers, to ask for their royalty cheque.
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The writer confirmed that the race in question were the T'kon.
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The writer confirmed that the race in question were the T'kon.
The writer confirmed that the race in question were the T'kon.
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Yay! I was worried they were the Iconians. So glad I was wrong.
I was actually reminded of the Chodak from Star Trek: The Next Generation - A Final Unity which was an amazing SNES and PC video game from the 90s. In it, the Chodak have such advanced technology, they are able to move stars (and did so) to arrange their civilization in a grid-like pattern. I don't remember all the details--it's been 20 years since I played the game last--but that's where my mind went.
Aside from Mass Effect.
Aside from Mass Effect.
Possibly heretical opinion:
While ST:TNG:AFU is fondly remembered because it's one of the few games we got in that generation, parts of it are... not good. Including, yes, the Chodak.
While ST:TNG:AFU is fondly remembered because it's one of the few games we got in that generation, parts of it are... not good. Including, yes, the Chodak.
Possibly heretical opinion:
While ST:TNG:AFU is fondly remembered because it's one of the few games we got in that generation, parts of it are... not good. Including, yes, the Chodak.
While ST:TNG:AFU is fondly remembered because it's one of the few games we got in that generation, parts of it are... not good. Including, yes, the Chodak.
I'm just kidding.
Came across this Reddit post! I didn’t catch that before! https://reddit.com/r/startrek/comments/fkr7a8/star_trek_picard_theme_played_nearly_28_years/
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Oh man, I didn't even notice that! I was too busy feeling out at the TNG theme reprise at the end of the episode. Which was just... all the feels.
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Can't believe the season finale is next week. This weeks episode was...interesting. On the one hand you can't blame the synthetics from wanting to defend themselves, on the other hand, the "leader" of the group clearly wants to go above and beyond defense and just wipe everyone out.
As for the "New Federation" what's to come...seems very Mass Effect but I'll give it a shot. Highly evolved synthetics, waiting, watching to be called in to wipe organics out. Lets see what happens next week!
As for the "New Federation" what's to come...seems very Mass Effect but I'll give it a shot. Highly evolved synthetics, waiting, watching to be called in to wipe organics out. Lets see what happens next week!
Can't believe the season finale is next week. This weeks episode was...interesting. On the one hand you can't blame the synthetics from wanting to defend themselves, on the other hand, the "leader" of the group clearly wants to go above and beyond defense and just wipe everyone out.
As for the "New Federation" what's to come...seems very Mass Effect but I'll give it a shot. Highly evolved synthetics, waiting, watching to be called in to wipe organics out. Lets see what happens next week!
As for the "New Federation" what's to come...seems very Mass Effect but I'll give it a shot. Highly evolved synthetics, waiting, watching to be called in to wipe organics out. Lets see what happens next week!
Yeah. I think we can definitely say that our protagonists will be rescued by the Normandy....
I am a bit skeptic about these evolved synthetics, and also by the facts that Sutra is evil. But, since it's a just a first part, I'll hold my judgement until next week. In the meanwhile, I think we may be in front of a link with DIS Season 2 (a season I hated, almost; but still....):
ALERT: DISCOVERY SPOILERS AHEAD
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1. The revelation of whom the 'warning' was addressed to could also bring out another question: Control may have become evil when becoming sentient precisely because, through the Sphere data, it had acquired knowledge of those evolved synthetics, and basically was trying to do the 'dirty job' without them, or simply imitate them in a perceived act of self-defense? Actually, since the 'destruction of all organic life' happened in DIS future, could it be that it is what Sutra wants to happen in PIC?
2. Am I the only one who is a bit concerned about this constant presence of the number '8'? Eight signals in DIS, eight stars in PIC. Maybe just a coincidence, but still...(I don't know if somebody already put forward this sort of link or reference here).
2. Am I the only one who is a bit concerned about this constant presence of the number '8'? Eight signals in DIS, eight stars in PIC. Maybe just a coincidence, but still...(I don't know if somebody already put forward this sort of link or reference here).
Eight eight eight...
OH MY GOD ITS CAUSE AND EFFECT ALL OVER AGA—
ALL HANDS ABANDON SHIP
REPEAT ALL HANDS ABANDON—
OH MY GOD ITS CAUSE AND EFFECT ALL OVER AGA—
ALL HANDS ABANDON SHIP
REPEAT ALL HANDS ABANDON—
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Well, looks like it's time for Commander Shepard to punch giant space cuttlefish and stuff.
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Well, looks like it's time for Commander Shepard to punch giant space cuttlefish and stuff.
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I'm not completely convinced the Synth Federation is as apocalyptic as both the Zaht Vash fear and Sutra hopes. Recall that message was left behind some two hundred thousand years ago. That's more than enough time for an active, healthy, civilization to rethink its priorities and step back from the "KILL ALL ORGANICS!!" philosophy. The hyper-Synths may be dead or gone or at the very least forgotten about the message.
It's also more than enough time for parts of the message to become garbled. No storage medium invented thus far has been free from degradation. Paper becomes brittle, ink fades, magnetic tape demagnetises, CDs and DVDs become scratched. Whatever medium the hyper-Synths used for their message may have also decayed somewhat, leading to imperfect interpretations.
Or there may be no hyper-synth civilization at all, only a long-lost echo by hateful beings who wanted whoever succeeded them to continue their ancient war. Might also explain why anyone exposed to the Admonition emerges so full of wrath.
My personal prediction is that, if there is a hyper-Synth force that shows up, they might be willing to listen to reason. Picard's skills as a negotiator might be what saves everyone here.
It's also more than enough time for parts of the message to become garbled. No storage medium invented thus far has been free from degradation. Paper becomes brittle, ink fades, magnetic tape demagnetises, CDs and DVDs become scratched. Whatever medium the hyper-Synths used for their message may have also decayed somewhat, leading to imperfect interpretations.
Or there may be no hyper-synth civilization at all, only a long-lost echo by hateful beings who wanted whoever succeeded them to continue their ancient war. Might also explain why anyone exposed to the Admonition emerges so full of wrath.
My personal prediction is that, if there is a hyper-Synth force that shows up, they might be willing to listen to reason. Picard's skills as a negotiator might be what saves everyone here.
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In other circumstances I would agree with you (and believe me, I would really appreciate such a twist, it would be very Trek-style) but I fear the 'hundreds thousands years' will be blatantly ignored and they will still be there, Reapers of Amazon Prime, ready to wipe out everybody. I hope to be wrong, however.