2. Am I the only one who is a bit concerned about this constant presence of the number '8'? Eight signals in DIS, eight stars in PIC. Maybe just a coincidence, but still...(I don't know if somebody already put forward this sort of link or reference here).
It was 7 signals is DSC. There is no repeating pattern of 8.
That's all I have to say. I exist for corrections and to quell conspiracies.
What's interesting to me is that everything in the Admonition is very Starfleet-based. Like, I'm seeing Data and synthetics with the Starfleet logo on them--did the synthetics go back in time at some point to leave the message? Or are we seeing the interpretations of those who survived the Admonition overlaid on the message itself? "The only synthetics I know about are Data and the ones the Federation is building; therefore, they are the cause of our downfall."
Meanwhile the Breen are, like, building synths all by themselves who are actually the bringers of destruction or something crazy like that.
If it was the case that Data appeared in those images originally, why didn't the Romulans kill Data and everyone associated with him waaaaaaaay back when he first came online. It's not like his existence was a secret.
So, after last week's episode, I had the theory in my head that the so called Destroyers arn't really destroyers, they just wiped out the T'Kon because they mistreated their synthetic creations. And so far this seems to be more or less the case rather then them being the Reapers from Mass Effect.
If it was the case that Data appeared in those images originally, why didn't the Romulans kill Data and everyone associated with him waaaaaaaay back when he first came online. It's not like his existence was a secret.
They certainly were alarmed about Data, after all that was the whole point of Oh's infiltration into Starfleet, she probably was originally assigned to kill Data after rising high enough in Starfleet, plus they were able to keep tabs on Data most of the time since he was on the Enterprise, so they may have figured that they'd wait until he did anything that proved to be a threat.
So, after last week's episode, I had the theory in my head that the so called Destroyers arn't really destroyers, they just wiped out the T'Kon because they mistreated their synthetic creations. And so far this seems to be more or less the case rather then them being the Reapers from Mass Effect.
If it was the case that Data appeared in those images originally, why didn't the Romulans kill Data and everyone associated with him waaaaaaaay back when he first came online. It's not like his existence was a secret.
They certainly were alarmed about Data, after all that was the whole point of Oh's infiltration into Starfleet, she probably was originally assigned to kill Data after rising high enough in Starfleet, plus they were able to keep tabs on Data most of the time since he was on the Enterprise, so they may have figured that they'd wait until he did anything that proved to be a threat.
You make good points, Al.
And the Breen comment was more of a joke, like: if the images are imposed using images one already has in their mind, how do they know the Starfleet Synthetics are the problem and not, say, ones being created elsewhere.
Oh! Pun intended. Has a snazzy uniform, I wonder if we'll see those Romulan uniforms in the game one day. Lastly...is Commodore officially a Romulan rank now too?
Saw the title of a Youtube video recently but didn't watch it. IMO sounds like an improbable fan theory but I suppose it does get you wondering.
Dr. Soong's son isn't really his son, or even human. It's Lore.
Well, I guess I (along with the entire universe) predicted that Riker would lead the cavalry in. I was hoping for slightly less 'negotiated withdrawal' and slightly more 'total extermination' as far as the Romulan fleet was concerned, but that was mainly because of Incest-Sister, whose demise I fully appreciated. I'd have preferred the last words she heard to be 'resistance is futile', but I'm a barbarian.
It'll be interesting to see where they go with Synthard from here. Although, straightaway... if they trade the Federation that bit of technology and the tech to make the synths with the same lifespan... and make sure they have the correct firewalls this time, that'll change things overnight.
Amazing episode, fitting ending. I really loved it (finally!).
Just one small note: why Starfleet ships are all identical? That looked to me a bit lazy. One of the most beautiful thing about Starfleet fleets is that we could see dozens of different classes of vessels...
(Side note: didn't they look a bit like a mix between an Avenger and an Odyssey class?)
Amazing episode, fitting ending. I really loved it (finally!).
Just one small note: why Starfleet ships are all identical? That looked to me a bit lazy. One of the most beautiful thing about Starfleet fleets is that we could see dozens of different classes of vessels...
(Side note: didn't they look a bit like a mix between an Avenger and an Odyssey class?)
If you look at the Federation's contemporaries, they streamlined their fleets into a handful of designs, which undoubtedly provides a substantial military advantage over the Federation's insistence on multi-role starship designs of various make and model. If I had to guess, it was a paradigm shift that started after the Dominion War.
I admit the homogenous Starfleet task force with the IMO rather unflattering ship design was a bit of a let down for me. Though having Riker there makes up for a lot.
I figure with the effects heavy budget and the few minutes of screen time Starfleet actually gets, it wasn't worth the extra budget to design a properly diverse and unique fleet of ships when, and this is a fact, Starfleet is not the star of this show. I regret it, but I understand and can move on.
Other than that I loved it. The Data send off was great and emotional. I look forward to what they do next season.
why Starfleet ships are all identical? That looked to me a bit lazy. One of the most beautiful thing about Starfleet fleets is that we could see dozens of different classes of vessels.
I like to think this was done intentionally, as Riker said 'Right now I'm on the bridge of the toughest, fastest, most powerful ship Starfleet ever put into service' about the Zheng He and the Curiosity class line. My opinion is that Starfleet intentionally sent two hundred of them to show exactly how serious they are about protecting the Synth Colony with the Romulans. Which is why Commodore/General Oh decided it wasn't worth the effort to start a fight she knew wasn't in her favor.
